Why the default color change? Dark letters on a dark background makes reading stuff here a bit more difficult in my opinion.

I tried changing the page style since I don't really like Chernobyl, but for some reason the change doesn't stick when I change boards. Anyone know why is this? I'm using Chrome if it's of any help.

... there's a front page?
Also, Chernobyl theme sucks. Too washed out.
>>13961
>chrome
Well gee I wonder where the problem might lie.

Viewing from a phone right now - works perfectly.

Can't say I'm wild about Chernobyl either. Photon's the easiest theme on the eyes out of all of them. The front page redesign's pretty nice, though. Seems more readable somehow.

>>13962

Hey now...be nice. Not everyone is tech savvy enough to realize Google chrome installs multiple tools they can use to listen in on your home life, as well routinely submits user demographics and search histories back to Google in order to more finely turn advertisements.

HEY TERU, ON THE ISSUE OF CSS, THERE'S 0 SPACING BETWEEN THE "RECENT IMAGES" COLUMN AND THE BULLETIN POSTS. ADD SOME SPACING SO IT DOESN'T CLASH WITH MY EYES. ALSO THIS IS IN A WINDOW, GOOGLE CHROME CANARY.

ALSO, YOUR COLOR PALLET. IT'S NICE FOR NIGHT READING BUT IT'S COLD AND UNINVITING, KINDA LIKE YOUR LOVE LIFE. THE PREVIOUS DEFAULT PHOTON WAS BRIGHT, BLINDING, AND ORANGE, BUT IT WAS WARM AND FRIENDLY AND A GOOD FIT FOR THE FRONT PAGE.

AT LEAST GIVE US THE CSS OPTIONS AGAIN I MISS MY OLD THP, NEW THP SUCKS (IT'S LIKE NEW COKE).

>>13968
APPARENTLY, IF YOU'RE IN A FULL SCREEN BROWSER, THE SPACING ISSUE IS FIXED (CHROME CANARY AGAIN).

>>13960
I asked people who had never used the site before about the color scheme and they panned it universally. I wouldn't call black text on grey boxes dark though.

>>13961
Might be a cookie issue. Styles (and posting passwords for that matter) are stored by cookies on the site. If you're using private browsing or delete all cookies, then it would keep resetting. I try changes on all major browser engines.

>>13962
Yes, the front page exists and is actually important since a good chunk of hits go directly to it. So having a unified style across the boards that's both our own and not bright green is desirable. You're welcome to make something that isn't photon and has mass appeal. I'll add it - just like chernobyl and darkish were created by users years ago.

>>13965
I honestly think that people were just too used to photon to realize how grating it looks to a fresh pair of eyes. It'll always have a special spot in my heart but I honestly don't think it should be the default style.

>>13968
>>13969
The front page scales with the display area size. On larger resolutions it'll look like the second image. With smaller areas it'll look like the first image until it gets too small and switch to the mobile-friendly version. I'll be adding a few changes in the coming few days but it's unlikely to change too much. Adding spaces or gaps sacrifices legibility. It's a compromise between having all the information and looking okayish. If you want to have all the information without having to scrolling to the sides that's necessary.

The previous front page wasn't photon at all, it was just a mimic of (old) 4chan/futaba. If you want to have it as an alternate style sheet, go ahead and tweak the existing one's color and I will probably add it as an alternative.

>>13970
I'll have to agree that Photon was really harsh on the eyes, and I find Chernobyl a refreshing change. No problems reading here--- muted colours are friendly to the eyes.

Isn't it ironic that the chernobyl theme is the one that stops making making my eyes bleed?

That is to say, I like the change and I appreciate the work that you're doing. Looking forward to the cellphone changes.

I can't understand why people don't love Burichan.

>>13977

I'm using Darkish because it reminds me of the Princess Luna Color scheme on FIMfiction.net

>>13970
>You're welcome to make something that isn't photon
But I like Photon. It's not bright at all, what the fuck are people talking about? I could paint the entire inside of my house with this colour scheme and it would be great.

>>13977
Bright colors destroy your eyesight. White is one of the worst.

Hey all. Would you all be interested in a changed (but not necessarily better) Chernobyl? I'm no CSS or design expert, but feel free to look over the image attached.

I really like the recently posted-in threads being higher up on the front page. It just seemed weird having the recent activity be crammed on the bottom of the page and this is a lot easier to access and makes the site look more active

... There are people who use styles other than Futaba and Burichan? Wow. The other three look utterly garish to me.

Anyway, consider putting the recently updated stories list on every page? Either the whole list, or a link to it in one of the menubars. I know you probably want people to look at the front page more, but having the list only available there is lamesauce.

Oh, and if you want to go really fancy, how about a different border color on the boards for threads with new posts? Or for new posts themselves? Not sure how doable that is, though.

Update. I wanted to make a Darkish theme that actually wasn't literally black and white contrast. I was going for a softer look that didn't burn the eyes after an hour or so of browsing. What do you guys think?

>>13994
Needs more dog. I think it looks okay at a glance though, I might try it out some time if it becomes an option.

Spring made a cool style. I'm happy with how it came out.

http://pastebin.com/GTyPXfKi Just paste onto stylish if you want it.

>>13994
Not bad. I'll have it as an alternative
>>13997
Colorful and unobtrusive. A combination that's hard to get. Not sure I want Parsee to silently judge my posts though.

>>13997
Sorry folks, that one was broken, making some of the changes appear globally on any site you went. This is the fixed one.

http://pastebin.com/FHb3PZF8

>>13994
Would use, awoo/10

This might not be the right thread, but here goes nothing.

I'm having some trouble with the site in FireFox on mobile. I dunno whether it's just something on my end, or if it's something with the site.
I tried with both Chrome and the default browser, and both displayed the site perfectly.

Saging because not feedback on changes to the site

http://pastebin.com/YKRPi6PV

Made a new variation using Solarized Light as a base.
It's styled around appearing like paper and should be easy on the eyes in daylight. I might update it a little more in the next week or so.

>>13987

Sure, I'm interested in best bird theme.

Decided to hop on the style train myself recently.

For anyone interested in a dark blue skin, this is based on Photon.

http://pastebin.com/bwVEMpTk

You might have go about specifying the URLs to point only toward storyboards.

>>13959
Thanks! Chernobyl as the default is a lot easier on the eyes. Somehow I never noticed that Photon had.

I'm excited seeing this place have updates... I want to tell all my friends about it now. Hm... I wonder if the boards themselves can be improved or something though? Not that there is anything wrong with them, but maybe there's something we just haven't noticed, like how nobody noticed that Photon was too grating.

>>14011
Working on your own CSS has become something of a fad in the IRC room. seems everyone is working on one.

>>14011
Actually, sorry for the double-post, but I thought of bringing up another old topic... So, to all of you lurking around:

Are we ever going to get a name besides "touhou-project.com"? I know, I know, we're all used to it and none of us are welcome to change/new things. But honestly? The lack of a unique name makes it hard for us to stand out. We don't have a super creative and interesting title that sticks to the brain, y'know? Plus, it renders recommendations directed at this site to become confusing.

If you're worried about the url changing, we could have a redirect to the new url, or alternatively, have a new url that redirects to touhou-project.com. Furthermore, we could come up with something that keeps the abbreviation "THP." I know some people have already come to calling this place all sorts of things that start with those letters. (Tea Hat Party is particularly popular.)

So yeah. Not sure if this is the right place to bring this up, but if we're trying to improve things around here, it's certainly the right time.

>>13989
The short version is: no, that's unlikely to happen.

The not-so-short version: The front page is made up of dynamic content (php). Every time you refresh it, it updates. The board pages are static (html) and are only refreshed when triggered, such as when someone posts. With javascript it's possible to make a script that fetches new elements and inserts them into a static page. But it's inefficient and clunky. There's newer server-side solutions too but to implement would require revising chunks of code and the underlying board software quite a bit, I think. We would be better off overhauling a lot more at once if that was the case.

I don't feel like typing out the more technical and detailed long version. Especially since I'm currently still trying to see what might work and what might not in regards to site improvements.


>>14004
I dunno what that's all about. Doesn't happen to me on FF or Fennec on android. BTW the burichan stylesheet has a few primitive workarounds for mobile that will probably get changed up and expanded upon. I just haven't gotten around to doing more yet.


>>14011
There's a few things I have planned for the site that ideally will be done in the next couple of weeks. Beyond that I think that we'd need to do more dramatic changes to the board software that will likely require a lot of time and patience. The thing is that I have to do all of this in my spare time as it's very much a hobby. So when life is being life I don't always have the spare time, peace of mind or motivation to work on improvements. I'd much rather give priority to writing since that's more fun and I want to keep up my fast daily pace. This is why the css tweaks haven't happened yet - I was thinking of doing it yesterday but stuff came up.

I'd appreciate it if you did tell your friends about the site, though. We do need new blood and any and all promotion is a good thing.

>>14013
I'm not against having a different name or buying another domain. That's a discussion the community needs to have and decide upon. I don't want to force anything. If you have anything specific you'd like to run by me in private, you can find me on IRC.

I find the radiation sign in the bottom right distracting. As lovely as Okuu is, it's... on the nose.

Hey, ah, this is an awkward question, but... I can't find the IRC chat without the sidebar, noob that I am... How do I find it now?

>>14018
Front page, 5th tab at the top.

>>14019

You're a real (nationality of choice) hero, you know that? Thank you.

Made a dark theme that follows my firefox style, based off of the nice darkish css from >>14007

What do you guy's think?

Also, if anyone knows how to change the hover colours for post numbers and backlinks I would really appreciate it if you shared~

http://pastebin.com/Ctq5Y8dF

Quick update to >>14034 since I realised that the front page wasn't fully styled and looked pretty poor as a result, fiddled with it a bit until I got pic related

http://pastebin.com/wyn310wu

>>14034
>>14035
Not bad, friend. I really like the green on that style.

As for the front page, I got too lazy and just turned off the style for it. Good on you for fixing it~

>>14016
This. I like the Chernobyl theme for the most part, but I dislike having icons in the background.

I dropped by to visit after a long time off, and I'm amazed at the new front page. It's much cleaner and more professional-looking now.

The site overall is just plain fabulous, as well!

Good Job, Teruyo!

Hey all, I finally got around and fixed a few things about the CSS I was working on. >>13994 was the initial creation. Not too much has changed but I think this is good enough to release.

https://userstyles.org/styles/126076/night-1-0

Check it out and stuff.

>>14131
This is how it looks to me.

If I had to nitpick, I'd say the greentext isn't distinguishable enough from normal text, which defeats its purpose. Other than that, it works well.

>>14131
Some news. The style may not show up due to HTTPS. If you are browsing in HTTPS, make sure to edit the url-prefixes in the CSS source code accordingly.

>>14132
making that fucking groove picture made me laugh uncontrollably for like five minutes, and the utter lack of reaction towards it angers me immensely

>>14132

You've gotta' admit, that joke wasn't really all that groovy.

>>14131

IRC isn't busted for anybody else, is it? If it is, is it because of site changes?

>>14136
No and no. That being said, you shouldn't use the site's embedded IRC. Use a standalone client.

>>14136
Apparently Mibbit doesn't serve https in its widgets unless you pay for it, so I've switched it over to kiwi irc. Should be fine now.

>>14138

Thanks for fixing that!

Is there any way to not browse in HTTPS? It defeats my proxy and is generally slower over my shitty connection.

>>14133
Speaking of which. The archived stories (possibly only older ones?) reference their stylesheets and scripts as HTTP, even when the page itself is now being served over HTTPS. Security flags get tripped everywhere, and nothing gets loaded.

By default this only happens for me on Chrome because Chrome sends an 'Upgrade-Insecure-Requests' header, which the server cheerfully acquiesces to. (Firefox will do the same thing soon, if it doesn't already: see FF bug 1243586. I may just need to upgrade.) This wouldn't be a problem if the server also sent the 'upgrade-insecure-requests' CSP directive* in return, but it doesn't.

* ("hey, browser, just pretend all the links and stuff in this thing are https, 'kay? thanks")

>>14140
I suppose you could find some way to disable or strip the Upgrade-Insecure-Requests header on your end. It's almost certainly a terrible idea, but it's at least theoretically possible. (It'd be far better to fix your proxy setup to work with HTTPS, though.)

Teruyo, what's up with this? I'm getting these left and right everytime I do anything. I had like three just trying to make the damn sadness thread last night, and I can't even load the homepage unless I switch to mobile data, else I get these errors.

>>14150
Dunno man, not sure what's wrong there. It ought to be working on virtually every modern browser and OS. In the months before the change, I made sure to test on as many browsers and OSes as possible. Can't reproduce that error with firefox on my android phone. Could you tell me what it says under 'Technical Details'? In fact, tell me more about your setup such as OS and browser versions while you're at it. Feel free to talk to me on IRC about this too, since it might be faster to figure out in real time.

>>14152
I'll not be home for another twelve hours ish, but until then I can tell you that I have FireFox v. 45.0.1, and am running OS version 45.0.1 on a pretty much new Driod Turbo 2. I'll get the technical details when I'm able to connect to my wifi again, but I can tell you that there wasn't any sort of "proceed" option on that screen,just some form of error I believe it was. In hindsight I really should have screenshot-ed the tech bit too before leaving.

>>14153
*OS 5.1.1,I don't even know how that typo happened

Teruyo, it's happened again. Here's the full thing this time.

Well that happened. I was trying to post this and suddenly my whole phone locked up and avast, MediaMonkey, and Firefox itself all crashed. What the hell phone why do you do this to me?

>>14155
Unfortunately that's about as generic of an error message as it gets. And, since I can't reproduce the bug nor find something obviously wrong with your setup given the information you've given, I'm limited in what I can reasonably do. SSL/TLS is the kind of thing that's obvious if it isn't working right because both server software and browsers yell bloody murder if any one thing is misconfigured.

All of that said, I did tweak a few small things on intuition that ideally won't break anything for anyone else. Let me know if it still hangs for you. And, if it does, if the behavior persists with another mobile browser. Firefox is the strictest in some regards when it comes to defaults for encryption (which makes it all the more weird that I can't repro on either desktop or mobile as it's my primary browser).

>>14156
Thanks for the effort Teruyo, but I had it again as I was loading this thread to read your reply. At this point in inclined to believe that it's something on my end messing things up. Before I post this I'll try to load a few boards through overchan and dolphin to see if either of them work where firefox doesn't.

Yeah, dolphin pretty much confirmed that it's on my end. Fucking fortiguard fucking sucks. I don't know why fortiguard doesn't give a blocked page for Firefox, but on dolphin your wonderful site is blocked under pornography. I'll be seeing about getting that shit removed ASAP. By the way, I wish all admins and customer service people were as prompt and helpful as you are.

>>14157
>fortiguard
So are you being filtered by your network or is it a service you have on your phone? If it's a program you have, try disabling it before trying with firefox again. It may be their blocking of the domain that's messing with ssl being accepted as valid on firefox and causing all sorts of craziness.

Also, we totally are a pornographic site so I don't think any appeal will be successful. /at/ aside, there's erotic stuff in stories all the time and that counts insofar these services are concerned. Usually these filters are dns-based, so just for browsing using the IP address in the url bar instead of the domain name gets around the issue.

All this talk of mobile browsing reminds me of my huge to-do list for the site which I've ignored for months. Posting an image of a touhou is easier than actually doing any work, so I'll do just that.

>>14158
>Posting an image of a touhou is easier than actually doing any work, so I'll do just that.
people like you are the reason why writers stop updating

>>14158
>pornographic site

The fuck you talk about, this isn't porn, it's art. Why, just look at Scorn's old stuff. You can't tell me that's not artistic. Eh, I'll just Orfox my way through it, it's a network thing. I didn't want to use it because it fucking destroys my battery, but sacrifices must be made for the 2hus.
>posting a picture of a touhou is easier than doing any of that work
Teruyo plz.

>>14159
Getting a writer to update is pretty easy though. You just remind them that you're eager to read more, offer a few good 2hu images as tribute and he's sure to feel inspired. Failing that, you can always call him a lazy faggot that needs to get back to the plottan' fields. Even if he tells you to sod off, it's still better than no communication.

>>14161
For you, my friend, another image. It's the least I can do.

>>14162
Well at least it's Yuuka. Speaking of writing, I can't help but notice that you have this one story in /others/ that hasn't been updated since Christmas. Nigger, work, back to it, etc. It's been too long since I've read your things so I've forgotten your favorite 2hu, so have some happy triclops.

>>14163
Satori is alright but does little to set things in motion. Considering that it took around 3 months after my last post to get enough votes to continue, I'd say that there's a distinct lack of interest in my writing. And I can't resume a story with daily updates like it's intended to be run without readers, their interest and - most importantly - their votes. Out of my hands for the most part, I'm afraid.

More in-depth discussion about me, my stories and whatever else ought to be in some other thread. Let's keep this mostly about the site and the stuff that gets worked on.

That said: have yet another image because, why not?

Suddenly my phone is rendering the sites format like pic related. I use the Dolphin browser. Do you have any idea why this is happening?

>>14235
>Reading YAF

Even your browser knows better.

>>14236
Why is Blue nestled between /at/ and /words/ when I browse /th/, but nowhere else?

>>14238
Whoops, didnt mean to quote

>>14235
dunno, can't repro. Thought it might be a css thing but it loads up fine for me at various resolutions.

>>14238
moved categories. /blue/ really didn't need to be a special snowflake considering its sister boards are long since dead.

Also, tweaked the front page a little more and should have a bit more consistent behavior. Still have more work to do on it but probably won't be done anytime soon.

>hiding a thread on /th/, /eientei/ and /border/ makes all threads beneath it vanish entirely
>this doesn't happen on other boards
how do you even

>>14242
Oh, it also happens here, /blue/, and /at/.
I mean seriously what the fuck.

The thread hider is currently acting weird on /at/, /blue/, /th/, /eientei/, /border/, and /others/. Hidden threads prevent scrolling, and hiding the top thread hides the entire board.

Teruyo, is there a way to move the "Hide watched threads" and "Refresh watched threads" icons at the top of the watched threads box like in pic related? Because right now it causes trouble with the links. I know I can just extend the box, but without that icons I can put more threads in less space. Thanks in advance and sorry for bad english.

>>14238
The reason it's inconsistent between boards is because no one has posted on some of the boards since Teruyo changed it, and that's necessary to see the new location.

Specifically, the server generates HTML whenever a post is made, and keeps that until a new post is made. There's no point in re-generating the webpage if nothing has changed after all... but some things, like moving the boards around, don't trigger the update.

>>14254
Done. Hope no one complains the change. And that's perfectly fine English, don't worry.

Teruyo is it normal that every time I shut off my pc my list of watched threads vanishes? The box remains there but it's empty, I have to add them again every time. I'm using chrome and I haven't cancelled the cookies...

>>14273
You've probably got something changing your IP, if I had to guess - personally I've found that my watched threads seem to vanish and reappear as I move between internet connections.

Hell if I know why it's IP-specific, though.

I can't connect to IRC. I keep getting an "ECONNREFUSED" error. Is this a problem on my end, was there a recent change or what?

>>14293
With the kiwi web client on the front page? It works for me.

So, I vaguely remember someone at some point making a comment about there being more "color" boards than just /blue/ and /coriander/ and I decided to try some. Can someone tell me why, out of all the ROYGBIV colors, does Inidgo have a different colored 404 screen than the others?

>>14373
You're using the night theme, aren't you? The color scheme is identical to the night theme. I don't know why, but I experience the same issue as well. Things like /red/ are normal, but /indigo/ is included in the css's criteria, somehow.

I blame not using regex.

>>14382
I'm using the one you sent me, can't remember the name.

>>13968
Photon frontpage for you and for other folks who hate their eyes.
http://pastebin.com/c7gneYvV

Added a pair of new themes, dusk and photon dark blue. They were made by two of our moderators, Moral and Alkarl. Pretty good stuff if you're into dark themes.

>>13994
Dusk needs the best awoo image to work.

Also, I tried Isolex's (hard to find a image background that isn't intrusive) but it has errors (a few 'empty rules' whatever that is) but with my luck he's already disappeared from the face of the Earth.

I've added a "beta" CSS theme alongside a few tweaks on the board pages that should make the site a better experience for any mobile/small screen users. There are some things that are still rough around the edges/purposefully left unfinished such as:

-navigating between boards (will likely be a drop down menu)
-navigating between board pages (same)
-switching between CSS themes (that drop down menu will probably be moved/put next to the navigation one)
-a few misc positioning of items, like the posting mode indicator above the postbox
-actually switching in and out mobile view automatically on a first time visit

Those will be handled later after I get the more important bits ironed out. And that's where I need people who often use their phones to browse the site to pipe in. Select the 'mobile' CSS from the style selector and give me feedback on things like:

-Proportions of font sizes
-Spacing between elements
-Ease of navigation
-whether logos should be cropped/gotten rid of
-general usability/legibility

If something looks off please go into detail about what it is and how you think it can be improved. A screenshot is also potentially very helpful. I'm not exactly an expert on UI and aesthetics so I value any and all input. There's a lot that can use tweaking.

Make sure to mention if you're running an unusual resolution or something too. If you need to exit the CSS, there's a button on the bottom left of the page that should reset it back to chernobyl.

Normal desktop users: it'll obviously look weird for you guys, so don't bother looking with large viewing ports.

First of all, thank you. I do most of my reading on mobile, and now I can actually read the text without zooming in or switching to landscape. The screenshot is on a 5" 1080x1920 phone, so you can resize it on your computer for reference.

>Proportions of font sizes
The thread titles/names are tiny, especially relative to the new post text size.

>Spacing between elements
It looks good to me.

>Ease of navigation
Most of the links are too small to tap properly. Currently, I have to zoom in on the list of boards to make sure I hit the right one.

>whether logos should be cropped/gotten rid of
I'm going to assume you mean the page banner. Those are fine, but I'd rather they not overlap with the watched threads box. Maybe you could re-size them to fill the width of the screen?

>general usability/legibility
I can read the text of posts. Everything else is secondary.

Wishlist:
-The list of boards or the menu icon should float on the page as you scroll down.
-Larger image thumbnails would be nice.
-A notification on the menu bar if a watched thread on one of the boards has been updated would be amazing, but that's an unrealistic 'stretch goal'.

>>14939

>A notification on the menu bar if a watched thread on one of the boards has been updated would be amazing, but that's an unrealistic 'stretch goal'.

That just sounds wonderful in general. Heck, even just changing the color of a board's name to show that it's the case would be wonderful.

>>14939
Thanks for the feedback. I'm just replying to highlights where I can add clarity. In general, assume that I'm taking into consideration everything anyone posts in this thread.

>The thread titles/names are tiny
I generally agree. But this is something that may or may not change depending on how it looks on smaller resolutions (say, on slightly older phones).

>Most of the links are too small to tap properly.
Is this the case for links within the threads themselves (ie: links to other threads or external such as the pastebin link a few posts above)? That's more important to get right. I'm not concerned with the board list because that's just there temporarily.

>watched threads box.
You can resize and drag the WT box. Try that. It's otherwise not something I'll be taking into account right now and I've hidden away the button for it in the mobile css to begin with while I work out how board/css selection will work.

>The list of boards or the menu icon should float on the page as you scroll down.
This is the solution I had in mind and am looking to implement. It's not a guarantee and I may just go with static dropdown menus at the top and bottom. There's factors such as rendering times and page complexity to take into account. Too many bells and whistles and pages take too long to load and may not work properly on less modern devices. How the page is served was something designed over a decade ago and right now I'm working around limitations in a somewhat ugly way. I'm not prepared to do a partial or full rewrite right now because, when I do, I might as well change most of the backend stuff on the site.

>Larger image thumbnails would be nice.
Not going to happen, sorry. Would have to change too much old code around and how thumbnails are generated in the first place.

>notification on the menu bar if a watched thread on one of the boards has been updated
Not going to happen either. An overhaul of the WT functionality is something I had in mind but it's something relatively low priority. The mystery box, mobile stuff and a few other things all take precedence.

>>14941

>small links
It's mostly the [Reply] link at the top of each thread, but it's pretty easy to fatfinger the image/image expand as well. Also, the link in "message too long, click [here]" is smaller than the rest of the text in that sentence. On the rare occasion that someone does two 'above posts' links one after the other, it can be difficult to tap the right one. The same applies to posts with multiple 'replies' links, but that is less important.

>resize WT box
I can resize it on my desktop, but not on my phone. I'm not in the habit of using it anyway; I just figured I should test everthing on the site.

>stuff that can't be done
I understand. There's only so much that you can do with CSS, and legacy systems are suffering.